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Talking rubbish podcast: Do we really have more plastic than fish?

We are pleased to share the latest episode of the Talking Rubbish podcast — co-hosted by Robbie Staniforth, who will be joining Go Circular 2026 as a chairperson for one of our key discussions.

Source: Talking Rubbish Podcast

Talking Rubbish is a weekly podcast that explores the realities, complexities, and sometimes absurdities of the recycling world — with insight, clarity, and a sense of humour. Hosted by James Piper (author of The Rubbish Book) and Robbie Staniforth (Policy Director and long-time circular economy advocate), the show breaks down everything from everyday recycling habits to major global waste challenges.

This week’s episode:

In 2016, the Ellen MacArthur Foundation made a bold claim: by 2050, there could be more plastic in the ocean than fish. The statement travelled the world — but is it accurate?

Robbie and James unpack:

  • How scientists estimate plastic and fish biomass
  • What the data actually suggests
  • Whether the prediction still holds today

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